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7th February 2003: Daredevil Update:
Just received a transcript of a International Press Conference
that was held at the Ritz Carlton Hotel in Pasadena on the
2nd of February. Cast who attended were BEN AFFLECK, COLIN
FARRELL, JENNIFER GARNER
Q: Why
do life lessons seem to come from the world of comics
rather than fairy tales nowadays? Do young people find them
more
accessible?
BEN: I'm trying to think what the fairy tale lesson is in
this movie
and it must be, Don't trust Irish people (joke about COLIN
FARRELL, he
answers ?). I think there's a tradition of telling stories
on a kind
of apocryphal operatic scale, good versus evil, that sort
of thing,
starting with cavemen drawing through Sisyphus, Hercules,
and on to
Beowulf. They're kind of like knights and dragons, and I think
this is
sort of the modern equivalent of that. I don't know what it
is that
people seem to be interested in. Look LORD OF THE RINGS is
like a
fantasy storytelling, it's kind of engaging, and particularly
now that,
with the budgets and skilled outlets of all the technicians
in
Hollywood, you can create these world visually, these fantasy
environments. And it's the perfect setting for them, it's
convincing
and it's a wonderful escapist fairy tale environment.
Q: What
kind of thought process do you have to go through as an actor
to make it real, play a guy who goes out to seek vengeance
and is
putting on a costume to do it?
BEN: For Colin I don't think it was very far afield, but for
me it was
a bit of a stretch (laughter, COLIN interjects). I think that
you just
have to suspend your disbelief and convince yourself that...
Actually
one of the reasons why I think it was good that SPIDER-MAN
came out and
was so successful before this movie, because it helps to sort
of
indoctrinate people into accepting the fact that there is
a world where
people put on costumes and tend to go out at night. And in
particular
this movie, which doesn't do a lot of winking at the audience,
it has
this dual tone, one is this sort of comic book operatic scale
universe,
and the other is that the movie asks you to really invest
in these
characters, to take them seriously, and so it really doesn't
work if
you don't do that as an actor. So you have to just commit
to it
wholeheartedly. Luckily I had read the comic book for so many
years,
it didn't seem that outrageous to me, I thought, he puts on
a red suit,
he goes out, I know this guy, when I was a kid I kind of thought
it was
real, so I probably started ahead of the game in term of...
acting-wise, because I was totally familiar with the comic
book
Q: The
film is pretty violent. Aren't you afraid that kids may try
to
imitate what you have done in the movie?
BEN: No, for one thing I think there are consequences to the
violence
in this movie, this guy gets stabbed, people age, people die,
and it's
sad, it's not random, wanton, consequenceless violence, as
opposed to
something where people kind of fall..., like in a videogame
violence
where you can get hit and you never really die and you have
nine lives.
All I can tell you is that as a kid I watched...I loved The
Roadwarrior, my favorite movie, and I understood full well
at the age
of 9 that I wasn't going to be humongous and shoot people
with
shotguns, that that was fantasy, and there's a difference
between
fantasy and reality. And so I trust that the parents will
tell the
kids that. This is not a movie for a 4, 5, 6-years-old kids,
I mean,
they'll just have nightmares, but I started being involved
and
interested in this kind of stuff when I was 8 and 9 and I
think that it
is appropriate.
Q: How
did you prepare to play a blind man ?
BEN: There's a couple of answers to that question. One, I
worked with
this guy call Tom Sullivan who's blind and with whom I sat
down and
spent some time and asked him about how he used the other
sense to
compensate for not being able to see, how it changed his carriage,
the
way he held his head, so on and so forth. However the difference
between this and playing somebody who's blind without superpowers
is
that he's blind kind of optically speaking but he actually
is aware of
is surroundings by using this kind of sonar sense. So it was
tricky, a
lot of times he's kind of behaving more helpless than he really
is.
The other thing I did was that I had the contacts that were
built for
me to sort of look like eye scars, built so they were opaque,
so I
really couldn't see. So I was able to just forget about that,
it
wasn't an issue, I didn't have to worry about acting blind
because I
couldn't see anything, it meant that my larger worries were
not bumping
into the furniture.
Q: Could
each of you talk about your relationship to superheroes
when you grew up and if you could pick any superpower which
one would
it be?
COLIN: Me and Wonderwoman had a fling for about 2 weeks when
I was 14
I never grew up with...I never heard of Daredevil until I
was
aware of the obvious things like Spiderman and Superman from
TV shows,
and Batman was Adam West but it didn't take a long time for
me to
establish that there was an amazing following out there for
Daredevil
especially
JENNIFER: I grew up... I was one of 3 girls, so we were much
more into
'Anne of Green Gables' than comic books, and I was completely
unaware.
But I wish that I'd had Elektra as a role model growing up
because she
is every man's equal and I think she is very empowering for
young women.
BEN: Yeah, I was really into the comic books, it was a little
nervier
than everyone else, evidently, but what superpower I'd like
to have,
it's hard to say.
JENNIFER: I'd go for metabolism.
Q: What
exactly did you do workout-wise to beat Ben
JENNIFER: That was easy (laughter). I'd had a year of ALIAS
fight
every couple of days, so I came in probably more confident
than Ben,
but the annoying thing was how quickly he caught up. I was
a little
bit cocky after the first couple of days and then all of a
sudden he
was kind of crushing me and that was a problem. But, yeah,
I was a
ballet dancer growing up and then I trained for ALIAS and
fought
constantly all year and really wanted to do DAREDEVIL because
I knew
that it would be... it would kind of force me to train that
much harder
and take another step in this world of fighting action.
Q: How many hours a day did you train and what exactly did
you do?
JENNIFER: On ALIAS I trained fight by fight and would just
try to keep
in good enough shape that I could do anything they threw at
me, and
training for DAREDEVIL, of course, I had to learn to use Elektra's
weapons, which were the sais, the three-pronged swords that
were either
originally from farming implements or , I heard both things.
Anyway, this guy named Don Lee, who is 21 and a martial arts
sai
champion of the country, would come and hang out on the ALIAS
set and
teach me drills and teach me how to use that during lunch
or 5 minutes
breaks here and there and come to my house on Sunday and just
kind of
choreograph fights for me to learn the basics of using the
sai. And
other than that I just got there and Ben and I then rehearsed
with the
Hong Kong wire team lead by master Cheung Yan for hours every
day.
Paula:
What was the most difficult sequence to shoot?
BEN: The playground fight because we had to include this teeter-totter
thing, landing on that, the wires. It just gets painful after
a while
hanging u in the air like that, but we did a lot of rehearsal
and
everybody else seemed pretty comfortable with it, so made
me feel I got
better, got my shit together.
Q: I wonder
if each of the actors could say something that
happened between them and either their mother or their father
that
influenced the choices that they made.
BEN: My father was a staggering falling-down drunk, I decided
not to go
that way.
COLIN: After being one.
BEN: It took me
JENNIFER: My mother... after college... I had spent every
summer doing
some schlock movie , the whole time saying, I'm going to law
school,
I'm going go be a doctor or trying to avoid the fact that
I was so
impassioned by learning how to act. And when I finished college
and
was thinking about al these different options for graduate
school, my
mom said, Jen, just go to New York, you're ready, you've trained
your
whole life, go. And that's kind of the opposite from what
you'd expect
from my mom.
COLIN: My mom as well always instilled to me to do whatever
you want,
as long you don't hurt anyone, as long as you're happy, do
whatever you
want in life, reach for whatever you want to reach for, say
whatever
you feel, whatever's on your mind at any given time, of course.
whatever makes you tick, so something that I'm aware of every
day.
BEN: I love my mother too
Q: For
Jennifer and Ben, if you could address the nature of the
love story, which is an important theme of the movie, as well
as the
refusal to commit violence after violence. It seems that these
two
people get together because they have shared something on
common, a
tragedy in their past, if you could relate to that personally.
BEN: I was a little worried that people wouldn't get all that
from the
movie, but I'm glad that you did. You make a good point that
the love
story really is the heart of movie and it's kind of like the
transforming power of love in the way that changes this character
and
he decides to...recognizes that he's been vengeful really
and
vindictive of violence, and doesn't want to do that now that
he meets
somebody that he really falls in love with. I think the love
story
kind of anchors the movie in a great way, and i couldn't possibly
have
had anybody to play it with than lovely and talented Jennifer
Garner.
JENNIFER: I love the idea that these two people recognized
each
other's handicaps, her emotional handicap and his emotional
and obvious
physical handicap, and respect what they've had to go through
and how
disciplined they had to be able to do what they can do, and
I love that
they fall in love out of a mutual respect and a mutual admiration
for
each other, as well as just an attraction.
Q: But is that something you can relate to in your own life?
JENNIFER: Ben?
BEN: Yeah, sure, you know, for me it's not exactly as though
I'm going
to try and do this inside, okay, what exactly is this like
in my real
life, but rather just try to look realistically to the imagined
circumstances of the movie, and in that way it was very easy
for me to
imagine this because it was so clearly drawn out and so well
played
by Jennifer. So, yeah, I think people fall in love for mysterious,
unknowable reasons and sometimes trying to distill that down
to all the
exact things is frustrating for me, it's easier to try to
play the
honesty of the emotions scene by scene.
Q: Ben,
what are you doing on Valentine's day?
BEN: You mean, you aren't going to hang out? I thought I was
going to
come over. I guess I'm going to have to look for something
else to do
now. I don't know, I guess I'm going to be in New York working
on
promoting this movie, so it will be a working holiday for
me. I think
on Valentine's day, is it Friday or Saturday, Friday, I don't
know,
maybe i'll be rehearsing, I'm going to try and sneak out and
see
Jennifer's Saturday Night Live thing, make an appearance,
if I could
find the time.
Q: The
world of comic books is like a bible to the fans, you're
not allowed to venture beyond that, and yet, if I'm not mistaken,
Kingpin was white. how faithful do you have to maintain to
the
original source?
Q: Ben,
you play a blind guy in the movie and you're attracted to
this Jennifer because of her scent, what attracts you in women,
what
attracted you to your present fiance`.
BEN: I think what attractive, interestingly enough, about
Jennifer's
character and about Jennifer Garner in the movie is not just
the scent,
it's the person, and being blind is an interesting thing because
you
take away all visual things. it's an interesting, would you
be
attracted to different people if you were blind, would you
have
different criteria? And yes, she's supposed to smell beautiful
and
everything, but it's really about the fact... I'm sure she
does in real
life, he's supposed being attracted to her personality, her
soul, the
essence of her. And I think that's not exactly hit on the
head in the
movie, but it's kind of obliquely referenced, when she says,
I wish you
could see me tonight, the idea of course is that she knows
that he
can't see her really and see how she looks. And probably I
imagine
that it would give you a whole...it would be a pretty impressive
thing
to have a person fall in love with you because you would know
that they
really loved the essence of who you were. So much of what
we think of
as physical beauty is on the sole visual and I thought that
was one of
the really nice beautiful things about tis relationship in
the comic
book and we carry it over to the movie, the idea of being
attracted to
someone who
Q: As is that the case with you and Jennifer?
BEN: Yeah, that's the case.
Q: How
did you prepare to play Bullseye?
COLIN: I growled, I snarled, I sniffed, I used every trick
in the book,
it was all smoke and mirrors what I did.
There was nothing I could do, I mean, I couldn't really walk
around
Santa Monica killing people , and I can't stand on the back
of a
motorbike going 40 at miles an hours. I worked with a magic
guy, I was
doing THE RECRUIT up in Toronto and the good people with DAREDEVIL
decided to get me a magician, and he'd come on to my set at
lunch
break, and I'd sit in my chair and he'd stand in front of
me and do a
trick. And he gave me a tape of his tricks just to get a little
slight
of hand depth to the card trick and all that. I didn't have
to work
with a dialect coach, thank God, for once , I just worked
with Jeff
, he's a great stunt coordinator and they were brilliant.
For me it was fairly straight forward, just to have a good
time and
just enjoy to this insane assassin.
Q: Jennifer,
forget for a moment you're married, do these
superheroes melt your heart? Colin and Ben, do you feel attracted
to
girl that are strong or rather the damsel in distress so yo
can be a
hero for them?
JENNIFER: If I were not married, it seems to me that dating
a superhero
would be a hassle, they leave in the middle of the night,
they have
these powers, they have lot of scars, there's a lot of baggage
that
goes along with the superhero, so I think I'll just stay where
I am.
BEN: Yes, women that are strong are really attractive and
confident and
independent and powerful, I think that's extremely attractive,
which
explains the towering, overpowering popularity oh Jen Garner,
for
example, who's got that image that's out there, it's very
appealing. I
think men increasingly like... i think the damsel in distress
in a way
is kind of reductive of women, and it's also for a modern
man probably
less interesting, because you can't really have a conversation
with a
damsel in distress, it's be just like (screams), after a while
I'd
probably
Q: What
do you like about Colin?
BEN: I love Colin, I love him, I don't know, it's hard to
say, he's
sexy. Also he's a very charming, open, honest guy, I get along
better
with people who are accessible and open, rather than... I
think there's
something really people who are really guarded. I'd like to
think
I'm not that kind of guy. You know, Colin is who I want to
be
reincarnated as.
COLIN: I want to be reincarnated as a human
BEN: Have you asked Colin about Britney Spears?
Q: How
do you feel about all the media attention?
BEN: I think unfortunately it does you a disservice as an
actor
because what happens is that people get accustomed to seeing
you one
way, whether it's Access Hollywood or whatever it is in the
national
tabloid press, magazines, so it becomes more difficult for
them to have
suspended disbelief in terms of believing you as another character.
Where it may take people a few minutes to get over watching
after
two minutes of the movie I'm totally wrapped up in somebody
else, if
you have to much tabloid baggage, it may take audiences 15
minutes to
stop, to get this other image out of their head. So it's unfortunate
as an actor, but it doesn't appear to be something that I
have a whole
lot of control over, so.
Q: Is
justice all about revenge?
BEN: You picked up on that as a theme in the movie. I think
what
happens in the course of the movie is that this character
sort of
discovers the difference between vengeance and justice and
learns to
value mercy a little bit more, and he goes from being vengeful
to be a
more just guy, largely through the process of falling in love
with tis
woman and seeing what happens to her and seeing how she kind
of changes
when she loses somebody that she loves and goes through the
same
experience that he had child. He's also not the bad guy
Q: I wanted
to ask Ben something that Mark referred to and is on
everybody's mind these days, what is happening in the news,
if you
personally or this movie has a message that, in order not
to be the bad
guy, maybe you should find a difference way to answer to violence
in
the world.
BEN. Yeah, that's kind of the theme of this movie in a way
that
violence isn't always the answer, it's oftentimes the first
instinct
but probably not the healthiest first response and it doesn't
really
solve problems. As he says to Elektra in the graveyard, something
along the lines, it doesn't make it better, it won't make
the pain go
away. I think all sentient compassionate people understand
that
violence is and should be last resort, and that only when
all other
avenues of negotiations and conflict resolution have been
exhausted,
it's even acceptable to contemplate. And I know it's an issue
that's
obviously very present today, on everybody's mind here and
abroad, and
in that way I think the movie has a good message, although
it's almost
awkward to talk about an issue that's so much larger than
a movie and
so much more serious.
JENNIFER: What I love about the movie and yo can take away
from it is
that this character isn't trying to save the world in a huge
way, he's
compelled to prevent a small child from being beaten or a
woman from
being raped, he's trying to help people in his ten block radius
or
whatever it is, it's very much what's in front of you and
what can you
do to stop the small or large injustices that are happening
right in
front of your own eyes.
Q: Real
life couple have often not helped the publicity for the
movie. Are you worried?
BEN: I actually think that when movies work, they work, DAYS
OF THUNDER
or whatever, it just depend whether the movie is good or not,
and that
really is what's important and then ultimately people kind
of forget
that other stuff. I don't know if people ar e worried and
if they are
they don't tell me. I love JERSEY GIRL, I'm really excited
about that,
I think it's a good movie, so I'm going to count on that and
let the
chips fall where they may.
Q: How
comfortable were the costumes?
JENNIFER: I went every Saturday to fittings for several hours,
but it
was really important that, as tight as my wardrobe was, that
I would be
able to move and kick and be free. Elektra wears different
costumes,
the one that she's known for is this red kind of sashy thing
that, as
far as I can tell, she doesn't wear anything under, and the
one that's
not as well known is one that's very similar to what I end
up in, and
I'm so grateful to Mark for choosing this other look. For
me, if I
hadn't been covered up at all, I would have... Luckily for
me Ben was
completely covered up, so if I stabbed him with sai or whatever,
I
wasn't going to hurt him. If I had had just skin everywhere,
I would
have been one big road rash. But it was pretty comfortable,
it took
about half an hour to get into that stuff.
COLIN: Bullseye wears blue tights on his body and I didn't
think
transferred well on film, not that I had any say about it,
tattoos
Bullseye ballet dancer. Fortunately they gave me a cup, which
didn't
make me feel too good about myself.
BEN: Well you didn't look good without it.
COLIN: James Acheson who did the wardrobe is an amazing wardrobe
designer, so passionate about what he does.
Mark definitely wants to go down a road of Bullseye being
a little more
rock and roll than wearing blue tights, so we just figured
it out, and
the long reptilian trench coat was something that we knew
we wanted
early on for the fight scenes with the latitude to share blows,
kicking in the face, which I enjoyed doing. Originally his
head piece
a white eye painted on this material, and it was Mark's idea
to
have that Bullseye branded in to his forehead in a moment
of
insanity.
It was the case of the wardrobe makes the man, you just put
that
shit on and you start on the set growling, moving a certain
way.
BEN: I think it was Michael Keaton who told the story that
Nicholson
told him, let the suit do most of the acting as Batman. A
lot of that
is true for me, just putting on the thing, first of all you
can hardly
tell it's me, second of all, it does do a lot of that kind
of work for
you, just standing the in the outfit, you sort of look and
feel more
like a superhero than you do otherwise, so . I was really
happy
with the suit because it was very close to what the comic
book
iconography was that I was used to, so that was great.
Q: How
adamant are you about succeeding?
COLIN: There's a life's difference between ambition and passion,
I
think I'm a passionate I never saw myself as ambitious, which
sound
so contrary probably to what you think, because I've had obviously
success, I've been lucky considering where I come from, I
found an
enormous amount of success in the last years but I never saw
myself
as ambitious, just passionate about what I do and I'm lucky
to have a
job that's very easy to get passionate about because I love
it so much.
Q: When
have you ever been a daredevil?
COLIN: I'm a nervous flyer, I hate flying, and I took a flying
lesson
in a two-seater Cessna over Dublin about two years ago kill
me, and
I'm not doing that again.
JENNIFER: With three girls, somebody had to step up to the
plate and
kill the spiders and take on whatever job normally goes to
the boy in
the family, and that fell on my shoulders, so that, particularly
when
we were sailing as a family, if a storm came up, everybody
would go
down below, and dad and I would stay out and weather the storm.
That's
my daredevil moment.
BEN: That's a nice one.
JENNIFER: Wasn't that sweet? I love my dad.
BEN: I've never had anything particularly daring really. I
guess I was
a little bit more reckless and less aware of in the world
at one
time than I am now, but I've never been accused of being a
daredevil,
I'm the man with fear.
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